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Lady Stardust
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« Reply #30 on Oct 10, 2005, 10:34pm » | |
Well, Cows are horribly abused in feedlots, fed roadkill and hormones, then fed to people. Forty years from now, mark my words, HORRIBLE mad cow breakout in the US because of it.
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« Reply #31 on Oct 10, 2005, 10:36pm » | |
Wow. That was probably the last thing I expected when I made that post. Way to stay a step ahead of me. >_>
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Lady Stardust
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« Reply #32 on Oct 10, 2005, 10:53pm » | |
Dont forget that Ghandi is farther right-wing then me. I've probably got something to make you feel guilty about no matter the topic.
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« Reply #33 on Oct 10, 2005, 10:57pm » | |
Ok...make me feel guilty about...um......space. Yeah, make me feel guilty about space.
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Lady Stardust
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« Reply #34 on Oct 11, 2005, 6:05am » | |
Love the signature.
Need I bring up Bush's and Reagan's plans for orbital weapons platforms?
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Sadly as I tie my shoes
I love you badly
Just in time, at times, I guess
Because of you I need to rest
Because it's you that sets the test
So much has gone, and little is new...
And as the sparrow sings, dawn chorus for
Someone else to hear
The thinker sits alone
Growing older
And so bitter... |
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« Reply #35 on Oct 11, 2005, 5:23pm » | |
1. Thanks.
2. Ok, fine. You win.
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Lady Stardust
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« Reply #36 on Oct 12, 2005, 2:17am » | |
HOO-ray for Liberal Guilt!
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Sadly as I tie my shoes
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« Reply #37 on Oct 12, 2005, 3:20am » | |
Liberal nothing. I'm just ashamed we elected presidents with such ridiculous ideas. -_-
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Lady Stardust
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« Reply #38 on Oct 12, 2005, 3:47am » | |
Hahahaha.
No, I'm using Liberal Guilt on YOU. Actually, calling me "liberal" is painting me as far too right-wing.
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Sadly as I tie my shoes
I love you badly
Just in time, at times, I guess
Because of you I need to rest
Because it's you that sets the test
So much has gone, and little is new...
And as the sparrow sings, dawn chorus for
Someone else to hear
The thinker sits alone
Growing older
And so bitter... |
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« Reply #39 on Oct 12, 2005, 3:54am » | |
I know. I'm not feeling guilty for any reason involving liberals. It's not guilt, it's shame.
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Lady Stardust
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« Reply #40 on Oct 12, 2005, 4:06am » | |
Guilt, shame, all very similar.
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I bless you madly
Sadly as I tie my shoes
I love you badly
Just in time, at times, I guess
Because of you I need to rest
Because it's you that sets the test
So much has gone, and little is new...
And as the sparrow sings, dawn chorus for
Someone else to hear
The thinker sits alone
Growing older
And so bitter... |
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« Reply #41 on Jul 27, 2006, 8:08am » | |
Quote:| He was certainly better to his people than Cao Cao or Sun Jian, and to me that's what matters. Still a goddamn ?, though. |
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In the Novel Sun Jian is quite loyal to his people. He dies very early in the book anyway.
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« Reply #42 on Jun 26, 2007, 11:01am » | |
yes, an opprotunist indeed. and after reading the books I have a few doubts on Sima Yi's loyalty. Cao Cao yes he was loyal to Cao Cao, but he didn't seem to be very found of his sons, nor a few other wei officers, but hey everyone is going to have problems with people even in their own faction.
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« Reply #43 on Feb 16, 2008, 7:15am » | |
Haha, a very interesting thread =P The dialogue thats evolved therefrom is no less amusing than the subject of this topic. ^^
I should like to trade wits with you sometime, Lady Stardust *bows*
While Liu Bei did pull some tricky things over on a few of those who trusted him, and I will not argue there, he did however make true on many things other rulers would never think of. You must remember too that many of the people who he betrayed, not all but many, first harbored the intention of betraying him in taking advantage of his weakness, or causing him harm eventually. His virtue, although certainly questionable at times, was definitely far superior to most men of his day by leaps and bounds. All three respective rulers had their own strengths and downfalls, but by far Liu Bei was the best in terms of humanity.
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